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on the fiscal cliff, dividends will be taxed like regular income, meaning they could go up to over 40% for some high-income households. we spoke with larry mendelson, the chairman and c.e.o. at avionics gear maker heico, which announced its own special dividend this week. larry, thank you for joining us, we appreciate it. what role did the fiscal cliff play in heico decision to paid fiscal dividend. >> i think the fiscal cliff was very important. and moreover the threat to increase taxes in 2013, taxes on difficult dengeds would be about give or take 44%. and this year dividend would be taxed at 15. so that's a big incentive to pay difficult dejds early. and that's what we did. we paid them in 2012. >> yeah, you moved up a dividend. you would have paid in january for december. but you also added 1.14 a share in a special dividend in which will borrow money to pay. why do a special dividend on top of your regular accelerated dividend? >> we did it one, to share with our shareholders. some of the good fortune and profits that we have had over the years. we've been extremely profitable company. no
. the president's offered to avoid going over the fiscal cliff tax and spend. what about the cuts? rush limbaugh reacts. >> brian: scary situation. a mom takes her very sick daughter out of the hospital. still hooked up to an i.v. and police say if they're not found soon she could die. >> steve: wow. meanwhile, look at this video. why is that construction worker so excited? he just found out he had apparently the winning powerball numbers. who is he? where is that? we'll tell what you we know. "fox & friends" hour two for friday starts right now. >> ho, ho, ho. >> steve: look out below. remember this one from last year? rick reichmuth sure lives on the edge and over it and he's doing it again this yearment we're going to show i couldn't he's about to drop off the side of a 22-story building in connecticut. rick's annual santa rappel down a sky scraper live this morning, straight down 300 feet stanford connecticut. good morning to you, rick. >> good morning. yeah. when you look over the ledge from the top, it's not al
. >> it's timed with the country hitting the fiscal cliff, $500 billion of tax increases and spending cuts. scheduled to take effect in january. ill led to the super committee to create work out cuts of $1.# trillion. on defense, 9.4% cut for every program across the board regardless of merit. in 2013 trimming $3.9 billion from defense operation and maintenance. air force and navy would be cut by $4.2 billion. afghan security forces chopped by $1.3 billion. and embassy money and consulate would lose $1.2 billion. asked about the spending cut deal, the top democrats suggested they're finished. >> that is part of a big bold and balanced package that has big cuts. we voted for $1 trillion in cuts. revenues are needed and job creation is essential to reduce deficit. >> today, pelosi clarified she was not referring to the sequester. unless there is action in a hurry, there is a risk national security could be affected in what is a takous world. >> i'm worried because the only part of the federal government that obama administration appears to be willing to cut is the defense department. >> educ
to do some christmas shopping, sort of. he went to a suburban costco to talk about the fiscal cliff and tax cuts. he took photos with shoppers, chatted up the staff and was followed around the store by a huge crowd. his favorite part, like many of us who go to costco, all those free samples. he did get around to talk tax cuts. >> i think it's important that congress acts now. i mean, right now. all that needs to be done is extend the middle class tax cut. >> he bought cookies, children's books, an apple pie and a 32 inch tv. he declined an offer to buy a set of tires saying, i don't drive any more. >>> the driver behind the crash has a bizarre explanation for why it happened. >>> good evening, i'm chief meteorologist jeff ranieri in the bay area weather center. we're tracking the latest storm moving across california. a flash flood watch. and if you're headed to the sierra, watch out, winter storm warning in place, where we could see six to ten inches on your full forecast coming up. >>> now it's our turn. californians will be able to play one of the biggest lottery games in the cou
in the fiscal cliff debate. tax rates spike and spending slashed. congress is breaking for the holidays in two weeks. it could send the economy spinning in directions. $1.6 trillion in tax hikes. he will travel to pennsylvania to sell it to you. republicans aren't buying it. listen to house speaker, john boehner. >> despite the claims the president supports a balanced approach, the democrats have yet to get serious about real spending cuts. >> democrats are firing right back at boehner. harry reid getting a little personal. >> i don't understand his brain, so you should ask him. okay? >> ouch. athena jones live from washington. same old same old. where do we go from here? >> that's the big question. the nice talk after the election is pretty much gone away. you mentioned one of the big sticking points, that's taxes. republicans and democrats can't agree on how to raise the tax revenue? end the bush tax cuts for the wealthy, close the loopholes, raise the capital gains taxes or all of the above. right now, they can't agree on how much money should be raised on the revenue side. let's listen to
is bluffing, there's not going to be a fiscal cliff, they will do something to stop the taxes from expiring. he doesn't want to be herbert hoover obama. i'm putting that on the table. if you take that off the table, you look at the economy, profits, the stuff, there's no lending going on, what is your outlook for the stock market? ivities i think we would be higher if we didn't have this issue. we have low interest rates, not only here, but globally the monetary policy will stay easy. whether you like it or not, it's going to stay easy for a long time. >> i would argue that it's helped. i would look at the gdp revisions and take the over side. a number of companies said they weren't spending at all and if they were getting push-outs from their customers because of fiscal cliff. >> i'm saying we reported there's a contraction. that could be good for stocks. >> if you get a resolution, then you get past that and businessless start to spend again. then the 2.7% gdp number, maybe it's higher than that. if we could get off the backs of businesses, we would get 5%, 6%, and it would go to -- >> bu
as the president's in this respect. rough the biggest aspects of the fiscal cliff is the fact that tax rates are going to go up on all americans. the senate has passed a bill that would give the middle class 98% of the people their tax cut. it is done. it's in a package. it's sitting at our desk. and all that has to happen is for the house to take it up. the only reason they're not taking it up is they want millionaires and billionaires to get their taxes cut, too. and this was a big issue in the campaign, thomas. so why don't we, instead of throwing insults, why don't they just pick up and pass that part as their own republican, tom cole suggested, let's have some good faith here, and we'll hammer out the rest of it. >> so senator, one thing you say about show me the money, if we talk about the lack of structural changes that are out there for entitlements, nbc's first read makes that point about that saying that the white house is sending the message that if republicans want entitlement reform, they're the ones who have to propose it. so is the white house forcing republicans basically to
combination of tax rate increases and spending cuts now known as the fiscal cliff. >> jon: oh, yeah, that, that was-- (laughter) ladies and gentlemen, the fiscal-- cliff. >> it's the subject of tonight's cliffpocalypsema get-- mageddonocaust, our nation's solvable budget problem. (laughter) (cheers and applause) >> jon: i actually hurt my shoulder just there. it's like i'm 50. so we're now just a little more than a month away from going over the fiscal cliff which is, of course, as we all, what is the fiscal cliff again? >> a toxic combination of spending cuts and tax increases that kicks in at the beginning of next year. >> on january 1s its bush tax cuts will eck prior within the alternative minimum continuation would quick in, hiking taxes for more than half married couples with two children. the payroll tax cut was also expire. >> emergency unemployment benefits end, and 984 billion dollars in the automatic cuts in both defense and domestic budgets are triggered. >> it very likely that we're all going die. >> jon: why did they put that last provision in. see, here is what happened. tw
. president obama's first offer fiscal cliff, higher taxes, new spending and power over the debt spending. and offered by tim geithner who had tax problems in the past and today president obama is it at a toy factory campaigning for new taxes on the rich. and joining us is julia. >> hi. stuart: how are you. >> i'm great. stuart: i can't believe that you, as a regular american, want to do this to america, do you? >> i think it's because-- i don't think that this is exactly what what's going to happen. stuart: you don't think that the president will actually do this. >> no, no, i think the president has learned to negotiate. what the president would do, he would start with sort of half a loaf and negotiate and give the republicans about 75% of what they wanted. i think he's finally understood if you want to actually get to at least halfway, you have to start at extremes and meet halfway. republicans have done this all along. stuart: you agree with me, if this plan, anything like it from the president, were imposed on the economy at this time it would lead to recession. >> i think that the p
've not discussed. i think that the president wants to go over the fiscal cliff, he wants all of the tax rates to go up, he needs that revenue,nd more important we know he is not going to get blamed. the madial protect him -- media will protect h. the other thing, this president, for a long time has tald about a balanced approach to deficit reduction, we assumed revenue on the table and spending cuts, but only conversation we're having is tax increases, there is no conversation about spending cuts. >> in january 2010, said he wanted to tap into entitlement reform, we have to look at entitlement. neil: steve quickly, one thing you are not looking at on the timeline, you think that markets will not have a voice in what happens, i saw, always, stay tuned. >> we'll see. lou: right, steve murphy thank you. an >> thank you. lou: mont monica rowley, what e bleepp >> i know. for your comments. republicans seem to be folding like cheap suits in the fiscal negotiations it just seems that way, doesn't it it does however seem that w way. james wrote,ea
people who run small businesses, people who are most targeted by the tax increases. take the fiscal cliff stuff out, obama taxes target small businesses, let's say have you a small, not unreasonable you make around $500,000, you. we like 15 people. you raise their taxes, they will lop off 2 or 3 of those people. neil: who are these small business guys that got in. >> i'm sure some of them have -- you know, listen, not all small businesses are monolithic. neil: who are big business guys. >> lloyd, just so you know, i know him personal, saying how great the president's plan is, ear something like warren buffet, they made so much money already. what do they care if you take of their taxes a little bit. james gorman that runs morgan stanley, i really like, said put pressure on congress to get a deal done, i am sure that that james would not care if they raised upper rate on people, but morgan stanley still pushing for certain deducts that help business, i would be careful with listening to the quote, unquote corporate. >> we did look at this, we cannot prove a exact number but overwhelming n
how it's being proposed and more on the fiscal cliff, specifically atx pyring tax credits that will affect families and businesses. to get you set up for our next segment on the filibuster rule, these are proposals that will take place in the next congress. minority leader mitch mcconnell debated this. here's a bit of that debate. >> mr. president, we believe that there should be one aspect of the change that is that it should be a non-debatable motion of proceeding. simple as that. the american people -- only ones who disagree that think this senate is working well are the republican leader and those republicans in congress. >> to the republican lead center >> yes. i hope the majority leader will stay on the floor here. i gather the way he proposes to affect this rule change is to deal with the simple majority. you didn't address that issue. >> but of course. >> well, -- >> that statement is untrue, and i don't accept that. >> mr. president, i believe i have the floor. that's the point. what the majority leader is saying he will break the rules of the senate in order to c
that would avoid the fiscal cliff. that is $1.2 trillion in automatic budget cuts and $600 billion in tax hikes that would result from the expiration on december 31, the consequences would simply be devastating. the economic impact on the country and the american people would mean the loss of hundreds of thousands, if not millions of jobs. the very likely onset of yet another recession. the white house timothy geithner on capitol hill today. he went there empty-handed to meet the party leaders. house speaker john boehner who has already offered to raise tax revenue finds himself not in a negotiation, but rather competing in the white house media campaign. this is how speaker boehner reacted earlier today to the demands of the white house that were laid out by timothy geithner in a closed-door meeting. the treasury secretary reiterating the president's call for $1.6 trillion in new tax revenue and timothy geithner currently offering nothing in return. in lieu of federal spending. >> first, despite the claims that the president supports a balanced approach, democrats have yet to get serious
. >> thanks, chris. >>> 33 days away for the fiscal cliff and another republican defies grover norquist's tax pledge. kevin yoder is "outfront" to describe why he did it. >>> and a woman died after doctors refused to perform an abortion. the woman's husband is here next. but, um, can the test drive be over now? head back to the dealership? [ male announcer ] it's practically yours. but we still need your signature. volkswagen sign then drive is back. and it's never been easier to get a passat. that's the power of german engineering. get $0 down, $0 due at signing, $0 deposit, and $0 first month's payment on any new volkswagen. visit vwdealer.com today. anyone have occasional constipation, diarrhea, gas, bloating? yeah. one phillips' colon health probiotic cap each day helps defend against these digestive issues with three strains of good bacteria. approved! [ female announcer ] live the regular life. phillips'. >>> we start the second half with stories we care about where we focus on our reporting from the front lines and we begin with new photos obtained by the institute for science and inte
to fisk the fiscal cliff, -- listen to a sampling of that. >> you will see your taxes go up on january 1. i am assuming that does not sound too good for you. that is sort of like the lump of coal you before christmas. that is a scrooge christmas. melissa: is the president right to put the blame on congress or are his demands unrealistic? joining us for the second today is juan williams. the president setting the republicans up to take the blame for all of this. >> well, you know, speaker boehner had a president here in washington. he is very clear that he is not trying to impose his real. he says tax hikes just are not good for the economy. that money should be invested. you are hearing, though, from the white house, we have already put in place a trillion dollars of cuts. we have something on the table. we are the republican proposals. we are talking politics in that nobody wants to go first and really lay out what they are about for fear that there will be a tremendous political consequence on things like cuts to medicare. lori: those cuts, as you know, nearly not enough. the second qu
billion in special dividend payouts ahead of the fiscal cliff and a likely increase in taxes for those payouts. when we come back, we're going to look at whether that could actually hurt stocks once though payouts are completed. >>> then, hewlett-packard blaming much of the financial problems at the company on the acquisition of autonomy, saying autonomy duped them. former hp ceo carly fiorina is with us. she's not commented yet on this major corporate story. she will coming up. stay with us on that. i put away money. i was 21, so i said, "hmm, i want to retire at 55." and before you know it, i'm 58 years old. time went by very fast. it goes by too, too fast. ♪ but i would do it again in a heartbeat. [ laughs ] ♪ ♪ you can stay in and like something... or you can get out there and actually like something. the lexus december to remember sales event is on. this is the pursuit of perfection. the lexus december to remember sales event is on. sfx- "sounds of african drum and flute" look who's back. again? it's embarrassing it's embarrassing! we can see you carl. we can totally see you
offer to resolve the fiscal cliff was anything but flattering. one republican called the offer an insult. both sides are digging in their heels on raising taxes on upper income earners. the white house proposal includes $1.6 trillion in taxes over a decade, 400 billion for medicare, 50 billion in stimulus spending and the end of congressional control over the debt ceiling. susan mcginnis is in washington with more. good morning to you. >> reporter: hey, terrell, good morning. the president's opening salvo there was not well received by republicans. they balked at his plan. he's taking his message to middle class americans at a factory that makes toys. it's a trip republicans are calling an irritant. president obama leaves the white house this morning to head to a toy factory in pennsylvania. he'll tell americans the fiscal cliff will cause holiday shopping to plummet. >> let's give a christmas present to the american people. >> reporter: but the mood here on capitol hill is anything but festive. both sides say the tax hikes and spending cuts due to kick in at year end are unacceptable, t
and they're calling it the fiscal cliff because they don't want to e embrace either the tax increases or spending cuts and i think it's foolish to think this congress can come up with a better deal. >> you know what's interesting, to eric's point, there is a great irony in this that the democrats are saying we've got to raise taxes and the fiscal cliff does both. just not in the way anybody wants it, so if they can't do that, how are they going to find a way they can all agree on? >> the superfailed committee. this is a giant hatchet as opposed to a scalpel. >> it was designed to fail. >> i agree, but the real solution and real irony is going to be the ultimate deal's going to look like the obama boehner grand bargain that was negotiated and almost done in the summer of 2011. the fact that we couldn't make that deal then i think's a tragedy for the country. one of the thing's it did was lead to that aaa downgrading. that was unnecessary. >> let me just follow up on this point of what republicans should accept. you said you'd go back to the clinton era tax rates if you could get the sp
. >> the fiscal cliff deal, charles krauthammer is talking about it. he calls it quote insulting. >> it's not just a bad deal. what geithner offers on the street robert e. lee was offered easier terms and he lost the civil war. democrats won by 3 percent of the voeft and they did not hold the house. republicans won the house. this is not the condition of surrender but that's what the administration is asking the republicans. they are not only cuts there are increase in spending with a new stimulus. this is almost unheard of. what do they expect? they obviously expect they will cave on everything. i think they ought to simply walk away. the president is the president. he is the leader. they are remanning republicans explain all of the cuts they want to mac. we had that movie a year and a half ago where paul ryan presented a budget a serious real budget with real cuts, obama was supposed to give a speech in which he would respond with a counteroffer. he gave a speech we had ryan sitting in the front row. he called the ryan proposal unamerican offered nothing and read on a med scare in the next 18 mo
on the fiscal cliff compromise. lawmakers have until december to negotiate a deal that would avert the tax decreases that would affect in january. this is 20 minutes. >> i had a nice meeting a separate that are this morning. i always enjoyed meeting with him. democrats are on the same page. freezing the texas for the first for. letting the rich go up to the sum of aware for the clinton cabinet permission. republicans know where we stand. we have said it so many times. it has been at least two weeks since met at the warehouse. now is the time for republicans to move past the happy talk. to put specifics of the table. the president made his proposal. we need a proposal from him. the rest of the glove there are a reasonable republicans britain from the pack. do members have said this and sang it. they should bring to the floor of the house the bill does pass over here would pass a center of the press today. the house republicans, if it would simply allow a vote. we're not going to kick the can down the road. we will finalize this this year. the american people want us to avoid the fiscal clif
. that plan from the president in trying to resolve the fiscal cliff asks for, $1.6 trillion in new revenue. and that's supposed to come from raising taxes on the wealthiest. the president's plan asks for an extension of the payroll tax cut. and an extension of unemployment insurance benefits. it asks for a deferral of those automatic sequester cuts to defense spending and to local -- to domestic spend being. and it also asks, i love this one, a multi-year stimulus package, including $50 billion next year, much of that is going to go to recipients creating an infrastructure bank. the president also wants to refinance under water mortgages. and permanently increase the deposit limit without congressional approval every time. the president in bringing this list forward in his plan to resolve the fiscal cliff is just really going for it in this negotiation. he's aiming for the fences, and he has a mandate folks and he's not afraid to use it. here is representative jim chicago burn elaborate on the ground that theme today. >>
cliff and preventing a big tax hike for everybody are going backwards fast. just listen to the democratic senate leader talking about the speaker of the house today. >> i don't understand his brain, so, you should ask him. >> reporter: president obama and speaker boehner spoke by phone last night in a call sources tell abc news was blunt and unproductive. both men refusing to give ground on the issue of tax rates for the wealthy. obama insisting they go up, boehner insisting they don't. >> listen, this is not a game. jobs are on the line. the american economy is on the line. this is a moment for adult leadership. >> reporter: and taxes aren't the only sticking point. republicans are demanding the president come forward with a plan to limit spending on medicare and social security, something many democrats say is just not acceptable. >> i didn't have my own card with me. jill wouldn't let me have one. >> reporter: vice president biden got into the act today, too, taking a break from christmas shopping and snacking at costco to urge congress to extend middle class tax cuts
this fiscal cliff, are we going to not have these tax credits for the upcoming taxes we are filing for this year? and also, will congress be able to take their vacations this year even if they do not do their jobs? guest: these are mostly things that will affect the next year. most of these tax credits were in place for 2012. it affects your 2013 tax bill which you pay in 2014. the congressional schedule is very much up in the air. everyone is figuring out when they can go home. there is nothing official yet. you could be here very much their christmas eve. host: ann from florida, good morning. caller: good morning. i like to ask steven sloan. he is an incredible guest. i'm in my 50's in florida. i take care of my grandson. what i'm asking you is your generation will not have to be on top of these issues. i appreciate all that you do. if you were at my age and you refinanced your home and had good credit, and all that money that goes for paying into the refinance of your home, is that still a deduction as the east today if you refinanced your home? i'm talking the primary home. hos
time, we're getting a look at what the white house is offering to stop the fiscal cliff stalemate. drastic mandatory tax hikes and spending cuts will kick in with the new year unless the white house and the republicans can reach a deal. for weeks, gop lawmakers have said we're just waiting for the white house to give details, specifics, some numbers. well, tonight that's happened. the white house is calling their bluff and they've laid out how they want to cut the debt. jessica yellin is over at the white house for us tonight with new developments. jessica, what are the specifics of this offer tonight? >> reporter: hi, wolf. according to senior officials on both sides of the aisle, the president is asking for $1.6 trillion in new taxes. that includes raising taxes for families who make $250,000 or more. you'll recognize that as a pledge from his campaign. and it also includes limiting deductions and loopholes as well as other changes to capital gains and dividends taxes. well, that is the headline for republicans, wolf, who say it is far more money in tax rates than they ever expe
will cave. the republican nightmare is there is a stand off they go over the fiscal cliff, after all the tax rates go up and the president, of course, proposals to lowerren's -- lower everyone's taxes but the highest and if the republicans resist he will say the republicans are talking you from getting a middle-class tax cuts because they want to recollect their millionaire friends. if republicans are going to agree to higher tax rates for the highest bracket, do it quickly, and, then, president obama would be the one who is refusing it because he is throwing in all sorts of extra things like total executive branch control of the debt limit. >>neil: who came up with the $50 billion in new surplus spending in the middle of this? come on! >>guest: the question, it is an interesting offer, kind of an office that the president gave yesterday which was call it disrespectful, a disrespectful offer and the question is, are republicans going to take it personally and get mad about it? or will they say, well, this is the early stage. we are standing around and snorting and we will get down to serious
the rope line. he is pushing his plan to avoid the fiscal cliff. is he standing firm on raising taxes for the wealthiest americans. want to bring in our chief white house correspondent jessica yell toin give us a breakdown of exactly what he has put on the table here because we know that both sides, they start off strong. they start off with the best offer they got, the strongest offer they got, and clearly, the republicans not quite happy about it. what is he offering? >> it's sort of a starting position from the white house. what secretary geithner laid out when he was visiting capitol hill yesterday was the headline $1.6 trillion in new taxes as part of their overall vision to increase those taxes for people making $250,000 more, but that also includes some changes to how much people can deduct, closing loopholes. increasing taxes for dividends and capital gains and some other things. then some other aspects of the wish list from the president. $50 billion in new stimulus spending next year, and then in return they would find $400 billion in cuts to medicare and other entitlements
. and -- what the fiscal cliff is essentially taking the personal income tax code and putting that on a yearly basis. it is just -- no way to plan and to -- and to do business and strikes me that if you can solve the fiscal cliff problem, get tax reform going, create the field, you could extract more, i feel, from the wealth write and even -- from business and get rid of deductions. what i hear so many people -- >> hard to extract from the wealthy, though. did you read that op-ed in the journal today? we had, what, mr. jim -- this will be the entire santelli exchange today. >> i read that. >> spoke at the democratic national convention. putting the money lou. does that bug you a little bit? >> i also read the -- >> depressing. >> i also read the op-ed above. >> it the wealthy people that he wants to go after? they escape it. they escape it. >> what's interesting is the op-ed above it has a list of gdp by year and completely leaves out the eight years of the bush administration. if you read that op-ed above it. did you read that one, rick? >> don't give me the switcheroo. i'm not talking about
. megyn: some posit the president may want to go off the fiscal cliff because then we all get tax hikes. the so-called rich get tax hikes. then he will say tax hikes have gone up for everybody. so now you have got to agree to lower taxes on the middle class and you wouldn't be blamed with failing to stop them from going up on the rich. at that point how could you say no? >> it's not that simple because part of this equation involves things like the sequestration which goes into effect in january. $1.2 trillion in cuts in federal spending begin with the fiscal cliff will put us in a recession. then we have got the debt ceiling limit which is mid-february, early march. we need to wrap all of this up into a common sense bipartisan grand bargain. just game this out by saying we are going to dive off the fiscal cliff, putting americans out of work, damage our economy or putting us in a recession or worse is profoundly irresponsible. megyn: what do you make of his request to cut congress out with respect to the debt limit. your thoughts on that? >> it's outrageous it's like say we maxed out o
leadership says he thinks president obama wants to go over the fiscal cliff by proposing higher taxes, no spending cuts and no plans to save entitlements. with president obama going to pennsylvania today, the house republican whip, kevin mccarthy's office put out a video profiling a small business nearby in pennsylvania that would get hurt by a tax hike. >> i'm jerry gorsky from an engineering company. however good or bad we do is my income. this notion of $250,000 being top 2% or the wealthy people in america ignores the way most small businesses work in america. >> reporter: i mentioned president obama is going out on the trail, if you will in pennsylvania to sell his arguments. one would expect we would hear some sort of response from speaker john boehner after that. jon. jon: what are the democrats saying? i mean about these g.o.p. complaints? what is your response? >> reporter: they are saying republicans if you don't like the president's plan, where is your own plan? they are asking for specifics on revenue in terms of tax revenue. they are also asking for specifics on what repu
the fiscal cliff by passing legislation to stop all the tax hikes, to replace the sequester, and pave the way for tax reform and entitlement reform. we are the only ones with a balanced plan to protect the economy, protect american jobs, and protect the middle class from the fiscal cliff. without spending cuts and entitlement reform, it will be impossible to address our country's debt crisis and get our economy going again and to create jobs. right now all eyes are on the white house. the country does not need a victory lap. it needs leadership. it is time for the president and congressional democrats to tell the american people what spending cuts they're willing to make. with that, i will take a few questions. [indiscernible] >> it has been very clear over the last year and a half. i have talked to the president about many of them. you can look at our budgets where we outlined specific proposals that we passed last year and the year before. we know what the menu is. we do not know what the white house is willing to do to get serious about solving our debt crisis. [indiscernible] >> i am not
that the republicans are losing the debate, both on the fiscal cliff and on the tax issue. they're losing the issue politically. i think they know they're losing the issue politically, and i think they know at some point they are going to have to concede a deal that are largely on president obama's terms. but they're also losing the argument with economists. if you consider what president obama put forward yesterday with a $1.6 trillion in tax increases mostly on the wealthy, every single economic study has shown that that will have virtually no impact on gdp growth. the congressional budget office did a study that showed that it would decrease gdp growth by 0.1%. virtually no impact. republicans didn't like that cbo study although they always like the cbo. so they went to crs to see if they could do another study that would differ from the cbo study. crs confirmed it. all the economists are unanimous if we're going to try to go after the debt, now that we have virtually 3% gdp growth, we want do it in a way that's least damaging to the economy. almost all of them agree the obama approach is the ri
much committed to going off the fiscal cliff and having big tax increases. they feel that they have slowed their economy too much and it's time to put more gasoline on it. they actually have the ability to do that. the communist party is very well run. ceo is terrific. they may declare a special dividend. >> the ceo is no andrew mason. >> no. if the ceo were to leave, i don't know if the stock would pop. >> bob pisani is on the floor watching what's moving on this friday. good morning, bob. >> we opened flat by in large. i have to say the commentary this morning, the mood is gloomier than i have seen recently. there's been a lot of hope that a deal could be reached here. how's this for gloom? 2013 is going to be tough. fiscal cliff or not. how's this one? we lose either way. you get a fiscal cliff deal, you'll have tax increases and spending cuts. they'll cut 1%, 1.5% off gdp. that's not good for stock market in 2013. you don't get a deal, you get mandatory spending cuts that will be worse. meantime, there are shorter term worries. how about getting through today? how do you go long
is both. this change to the tax code which makes it advantageous to be a homeowner and the fiscal cliff. these are two headwinds would could definitely derail the recovery. we remain adamant that the underlying trend are terrific. we're just very concerned about these new developments. liz: what are the chances? can you game it that would be one of the deductions gets cut or at least trimmed? >> it is very tough to handicap that at this stage. i don't know you can given how chaotic and unproductive it has been in d.c.. liz: or how vocal lobbyists get. lobbyist well beginning swing in on every level. we're finally getting recovery in the housing industry. >> right. the trage -- tragedy of such concern if we are to get the economy back on the right track and get growth housing will show leadership. housing will spur jobs and consumption. we need to protect the housing market in very vulnerable stage at early piece of housing recovery. david: you're extraordinarily valuable to our viewers because of some of your picks. >> thank you. david: all the picks you pade in housing made a lot of mo
. >> reporter: in the fiscal cliff negotiations, republicans still argue that higher taxes will hurt small business jobs. but, scott, democrats up here argue that this debate is over. that raising taxes on the wealthiest americans of all kinds was decisively approved by the voters in the election. >> pelley: wyatt, thank you. yarmer president george h.w. bush is in a houston hospital tonight being treated for bronchitis. the hospital told us it's not life threatening. mr. bush is 88 and was last seen at the white house in may for the unveiling of his son's onrtrait. millions were disappointed, but dere were some winners in that big powerball drawing. that story is next. copd makes it hard to breathe, but with advair, i'm breathing better. so now i can be in the scene. advair is clinically proven to help significantly improve lung function. unlike most copd medications, advair contains both an anti-inflammatory and a long-acting bronchodilator working together to help improve your lung function all day. advair won't replace fast-acting inhalers for sudden symptoms and should not be used mor
significant, the biggest stumbling block on the road to the fiscal cliff, that difference between tax rates for the wealthiest americans. and what house democrats announced they're going to try to do is an end run around the house gop to try to file a petition in order to try to push a vote on the house floor to just raise taxes -- excuse me, to just extend the bush-era tax rates for middle class americans. but to do that, as you know, they need 218 votes and there's still a very sizable republican majority in the house. it will be difficult for democrats to do that. >> absolutely. and that proposal to take away what has been historically a congressional prerogative was a little bit surprising even to people who have been reading about this stuff for years. is it true though, dana, as it has been in past years that both sides at least have to show their bases that they're fighting the good fight and that's part of what's going on here? >> reporter: absolutely. there's no question about it. what i mention in the piece really is a real phenomenon here when it comes to the feeling among congre
certainly reach an agreement, we wouldn't fall off the fiscal cliff, that people's taxes wouldn't go up in january. but now i'm not so certain about that. as you look at the negotiations so far and, look, my sources are on the republican side of the aisle, but what they're saying to me is this president doesn't want to deal from us, he want a surrender from us. so far what has been offered as jessica said has really been, you know, poison to the republicans. i'm not going to agree to a deal that raises taxes by $4 for every dollar of spending cuts. i mean, last year the president at least offered some substantial spending cuts, much higher than right now. i think they're gridlocked now. i think it is a tragedy because it would be pretty easy to just get through the beginning of this year by extending everything for six months. but that's not where they're at right now. >> you know how negotiations go. you offer the very minimal in the beginning and move. why isn't the gop then unveiling a specific plan yet? wouldn't that be the most direct way to counter the white house plan, with speci
as between 1 map and one woman. president obama took his fiscal cliff warning on the road today, telling peps vein workers that a tax hike could spoil the hole days. >> that is sort like the lump of coal you get for christmas, that is a scrooge christmas. >> the spoke at a toy factory and usualed them to contact their congress members and get them to support the white house plan which will do that. house republicans argue his plan would cripple the economy. >>> the storm may be to blame for a couple of big rig truck crashes this morning. one happened around 2:00 a.m. on westbound 580 at 680. it hit a puddle jackknifed and crashed there. fuel spilled, which kept the lanes closed for four hours. the driver was not hurt. >>> another big rig crash on 580 there livermore at the north flynn road off-ramp. the driver told ktvu he began slipping and sliding and crashed. 1 trailer filled with gravel flipped over blocking lanes, no one was hurt and that crash has been cleared. >>> for more on what traffic is like let's go to tara moriarty in the traffic center, still slow spots. >> that's right a traf
the details of the president's opening gambit in the fiscal cliff talk. he wants a $1.6 trillion tax increase, 50 billion and stimulus spending. and the white house has the ability to raise the debt ceiling without congressional approval. a very big deal for folks there. today, the president is out there, trying to drum up support among the public. not in washington or with congress or the senate. here is what he had to say. >> it is not acceptable to me, and i do not think it is acceptable to you for a handful of republicans in congress will middle-class tax cuts hostage simply because they don't want tax rates on upper income folks go up. gerri: it sounds like the same old, same old. the president has been making the same comments again. is this any way to sell a plan? >> there really is not. the president is not being serious about this. the fact that the president is out there campaigning on this rather than negotiating, it means that those that are negotiating, such as secretary geithner, they probably don't feel bound by what the president is saying. this is the first gammons and certai
to benefit if lawmakers get a deal on this payroll tax cut and if they -- on the fiscal cliff, rather, and if they don't, it could harm consumer can ha confidence and in turn businesses like this one in pennsylvania. but, chris, also expect republicans to sort of lob a counterpunch today. i expect them to sort of highlight a business nearby that could be harmed if taxes do go up on those making $250,000 or more because, of course, that is for some small businesses their budget level. chris? >> and one thing, a quick follow-up, did the white house -- do you have any indication did the white house expect the reaction they got on capitol hill yesterday? i assume with this proposal, which much of it isn't new. this is essentially the president's budget proposal from last year, that they didn't think john boehner was going to say, that sounds good, let's do that. but did they expect the dismissiveness and john boehner's tone in his press conference yesterday? did that catch them by surprise at all? >> reporter: well, i think the white house democrats were a little surprised by the backlash
pockets, i guess. >>> now, the stalemate in washington over the fiscal cliff. everyone's taxes are set to go up in just over a month if congress and the white house fail to reach a deal. and the talks blew up yesterday, after republicans dismissed the latest offer from secretary tim geithner. just listen to house speaker john boehner and senate majority leader, harry reid. >> listen this is not a game. jobs are on the line. the american economy is on the line. and this is a moment for adult leadership. >> i don't understand his brain. so, you should ask him. okay? >> tough words there. abc's jon karl is covering this all from capitol hill. jon, as we said, senate republican leader mitch mcconnell says he laughed out loud at geithner's offer. break down the offer from the white house and the republican objections. >> reporter: not only did he laugh out loud, the speaker saying it's unrealistic. the key is $1.6 trillion in tax increases over the next ten years. $50 billion in additional stimulus spending. $400 billion in medicare cuts. but unspecified over the next ten years. and effecti
given us his balanced plan to allegedly avoid the fiscal cliff. he wants to raise taxes by $1.6 trillion. he wants another stimulus package of $50 billion. he wants the authority to raise the debt ceiling without asking congress for approval. say it isn't so, mr. speaker. this tax hike will hurt small businesses which provide 67% of the jobs in this country. that may fund the government for a short time. then, what's the plan? stimulus 2.0. because the first stimulus worked so well? that was a disaster as well. we have a $16 trillion deficit, and the president wants to spend more money. are you kidding me? spending is the problem. we don't need more of it. lastly, he wants the power to raise the debt ceiling without congressional approval. the administration cannot issue an edict like a money monarchy. congress, congress, congress is in control of the purse. we have gone wild and that's just the way it is. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman's time has expired. for what purpose does the gentleman from illinois seek recognition? mr. quigley: i ask unanimous consent to address the house
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